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dlfl
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I'm not sure. Maybe someone who is more current on the behavior of the various TiVo models and pyTivo can shed some light here.
I do know the description of the Title tag as given in the pyTivo wiki
http://pytivo.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Metadata#title
Says it is the Series Name, not the episode name.
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BiloxiGeek
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| Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah I read that too. I did give pyTivoMetaThis a try just this morning and it builds the title line using the episode title. And then the behavior in NPL is what I was wanting.
Seems to be a bit confusing on which title is supposed to be used and/or displayed where.
On my Premier Elite and on my HD I see the episodeTitle in NPL when "title : <episodeTitle>" is in the metadata.
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dlfl
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| Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:18 am Post subject: |
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I can change MG3 to use the episode title instead of series title for the Title tag value , for episode videos. However, is this desirable for all use cases? The effects could be different for push and pull, and maybe even for different model TiVo's.
User comments are invited. If both ways are needed, a check box in the settings tab could be added to select which way is used.
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BiloxiGeek
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| Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:37 am Post subject: |
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A user configurable setting would definitely work for me.
Or, if we could get another text entry field to allow a template entry. That would allow me to do something like this to solve season/episode numbers not coming through pyTivo to my Premier.
episodeTitle Field Template:
{seasonNumber}x{episodeNumber} - {episodeTitle}
Then I'd have season and episode numbers prepended to the episode title which should show up in the NPL and allow for alphabetic sorting to all the episodes in broadcast order.
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dlfl
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| Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:01 am Post subject: |
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MG3 already has an episodeTitle renaming template. Are you saying no change is needed regarding the title item then?
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BiloxiGeek
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| Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:22 am Post subject: |
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| Not for me. I didn't realize that was the function for that entry. Guess I just didn't read the help for it previously. It works exactly like I was hoping.
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BiloxiGeek
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| Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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Well that previous post proves that commenting when you've been up way too long is a bad idea.
I really like the template for episodeTitle and have it working nicely. But my TiVo's still show the title tag in NPL. So for a pyTivo share of a series I get a list of nothing but the seriesTitle.
So a similar template field for title would let me change that field to the episodeTitle instead of the seriesTitle.
I've never understood why we need 3 title fields for an episodic series. The seriesTitle and episodeTitle should be enough to cover it. Leave the title field for one-off shows and movies.
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txporter
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| Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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Just to add my 2 cents, I also prefer the title: field to be episodeTitle rather than seriesTitle. I tend to use pytivometathis but do fall back to MG3 when ptmt cannot find the series for whatever reason. I always end up editing the metadata to add the Series#Episode#- to the Episode Title and then replace the Title with Episode title.
I would love to have a checkbox or template or whatever to save out data as below to avoid editing every file.
Like so:
| Code: | seriesTitle : Torchwood
title : Everything Changes
episodeTitle : 101-Everything Changes
originalAirDate : 2006-10-22T00:00:00Z
description : WPC Gwen Cooper is at the scene of a brutal murder, when the "special ops," known only as Torchwood, arrive. After witnessing the group bring the dead man back to life, Gwen goes in pursuit of this mysterious organisation, only to see weirder things than she could ever imagine existed. Soon after, she begins to regret giving in to her curiosity, when she meets Captain Jack Harkness.
isEpisode : true
seriesId : SH947230
episodeNumber : 101
vProgramGenre : Action and Adventure
vProgramGenre : Drama
vProgramGenre : Science-Fiction
vSeriesGenre : Action and Adventure
vSeriesGenre : Drama
vSeriesGenre : Science-Fiction
vDirector : Brian Kelly
vWriter : Russell T. Davies
vGuestStar : Paul Kasey
vGuestStar : Mark Heal
vGuestStar : Gary Shepheard
vGuestStar : Gwilym Havard Davies
vGuestStar : Cathryn Davies
vGuestStar : Jams Thomas
vGuestStar : Dion Davis
vGuestStar : Gwyn Vaughan-Jones
vGuestStar : Jason May
vGuestStar : Tom Price
vGuestStar : Guy Lewis
vGuestStar : Rhys Swinburn
vGuestStar : Olwen Medi
vActor : John Barrowman
vActor : Eve Myles
vActor : Gareth David-Lloyd
vActor : Naoko Mori
vActor : Burn Gorman |
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dlfl
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| Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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Just took a quick look at the pyTivoMetaThis code and it looks like it uses the episode title for the title tag value for all TV shows. So maybe that's the simple solution here -- just have MG3 do the same. Comments?
txporter, you should be able to use the episode title renaming template that already exists in MG3 to compose your episodeTitle tag value as desired. Note the recently added {seasonnum_nlz} tag which is the season # without the leading zero.
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txporter
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| Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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| dlfl wrote: | Just took a quick look at the pyTivoMetaThis code and it looks like it uses the episode title for the title tag value for all TV shows. So maybe that's the simple solution here -- just have MG3 do the same. Comments?
txporter, you should be able to use the episode title renaming template that already exists in MG3 to compose your episodeTitle tag value as desired. Note the recently added {seasonnum_nlz} tag which is the season # without the leading zero. |
Ok, I see how to define that now. That will work especially if you can set title=episodetitle for all TV shows.
I have a question about the autopopulate ability of Metagenerator3. I read back and saw that I need to right-click on the name of the series in the right-side of the search window to bring up the function. I did that and pointed it to the folder that contained my files. There were named:
Torchwood.S1E01.mpg
Torchwood.S1E02.mpg
Torchwood.S1E03.mpg
There were no matches. I had to point MG3 to each file. What am I doing wrong with the naming? I also tried entering this string in the Settings window for TV Show Template: {title}.S{seasonnum_nlz}.E{epnum}
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dlfl
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| Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:00 am Post subject: |
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| txporter wrote: | | dlfl wrote: | Just took a quick look at the pyTivoMetaThis code and it looks like it uses the episode title for the title tag value for all TV shows. So maybe that's the simple solution here -- just have MG3 do the same. Comments?
txporter, you should be able to use the episode title renaming template that already exists in MG3 to compose your episodeTitle tag value as desired. Note the recently added {seasonnum_nlz} tag which is the season # without the leading zero. |
Ok, I see how to define that now. That will work especially if you can set title=episodetitle for all TV shows.
I have a question about the autopopulate ability of Metagenerator3. I read back and saw that I need to right-click on the name of the series in the right-side of the search window to bring up the function. I did that and pointed it to the folder that contained my files. There were named:
Torchwood.S1E01.mpg
Torchwood.S1E02.mpg
Torchwood.S1E03.mpg
There were no matches. I had to point MG3 to each file. What am I doing wrong with the naming? I also tried entering this string in the Settings window for TV Show Template: {title}.S{seasonnum_nlz}.E{epnum} |
The templates on the settings page have nothing to do with matching file names -- they apply only to output file renaming and/or moving.
Did you select as illustrated in the attached screen capture? That should work.
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txporter
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| Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:20 am Post subject: |
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| Yes, that is exactly what I selected. The files were just dummy files though (text files renamed as listed above). Could that matter?
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dlfl
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| Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:15 am Post subject: |
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Dummy files are not a problem, rather I remembered MG3's functioning incorrectly. The single-digit season numbers were not handled. I have that fixed now and I've added a check box on the settings page to have the title tag value set to the episode title. However I have one question remaining before I finalize a new release:
When the title tag value is set to the episode title, should it be the orignial episode title or the meta-renamed one resulting from using the episode title metadata template?
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txporter
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| Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:21 am Post subject: |
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| I would prefer the original episode title rather than the renamed one. That is how I am used to seeing it with pytivometathis as well.
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dlfl
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| Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:22 am Post subject: |
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OK, I made it so. Ver. 3.32 released.
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